[laughter] but for mitt romney he's got to look cool, he's got to look composed, he's got to look presidential. in that debate he was trying to get a rise out of perry, and perry had stumbled after a strong start, and he was trying to get perry a little unwound. the whole thing for romney is this, he has to answer the questions he wants to answer. he can't be responding and rebutting president obama's charges, he can't be worried about defending himself by saying blow the whistle, ref, blow the whistle. he has to say exactly what it is he wants to say regardless of what the president says or what jim lehrer says. megyn: sometimes with these presidential candidates, and it happens for a lot of republicans, they get themselves in trouble. it's not even the moderator, and we saw that with mitt romney, too, chris, when he made his now-infamous remark about the bet he wanted to have with governor perry. again, watch. >> i'm just saying, you were for individual mandates, my friend. >> you know what? you've raised that before, rick, and you're -- >> it was true then. >> no, no. [laughter] >> it's tru